Astro Wars

[caesar007]

Ave

Pues mi sugerencia es que los verdaderos ganadores de las partidas son los guerreros y estos no tiene su reconocimiento a nivel de TAG ni tampoco a nivel de rankings.

Propongo un ranking de jugadores con mas player level de todas las partidas.



salutam est

[Silvernights]

The real problem here is the best fighters not necessary have the best PL.

PL can be obtained thanks to FA (such situation happened in B10 when BSF pushed a member over PL100 with FA, when 1 PL was worth 3 points). Also best PL will more often be people fighting weaker opponents or defending a lot and not attacking too much, and fighting mostly in the end of gold, then real fighters that fight early and against good opponents.

The problem here is to reward true fighters, and there are no other things imo than fame to do it. ^^
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[Oin]

If you want to make battles more important to the normal ranking there has to be a change in several parts of the game:

1. PL has to be counted again as 2 or 3 points

2. XP gained has to calculated according to the SAD value with +Attack being even more valuable than a bonus in defense which has to be counted still more than speed but a malus in those also reducing the XP gathered from a battle

3. XP from a team mate has either to be ignored (0 XP) or devided by the PL (which gives only 50% of the XP at level 2, 10% of the XP if you´re PL 10 and 5% at PL 20) improved version of this would be to first add +1 to the PL and then devide XP by PL. This would catch the division by 0 problem as well as reducing XP from an ally already after having PL1 and not at PL2

If all three parts are implemented it´s harder to give FF (having two different tags already makes the game harder to coordinate) and also gives more XP to fighter races and therefore more points by PL while farmer would get less XP in their defensive battles at the end of a round.
Only implementing one or two of those things would not be enough in my eyes.

Oin
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[Afool]

#3 is good. It would discourage evil overuse of FF.
The other two...I dunno

[CutDealer]

I proposed a solution there :
http://www.astrowars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25102&highlight=CutDealer (middle of the page)

About the FA, I still don't know any solution, ans what you propose Oin isn't a solution neither, as there is always the possibility of having 2 alliances doing FA (look at WAR/PyS topic for example ).
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[Oin]

[plasmacannon]

I agree.
All of your suggestions should be implimented Oin.
So long as, FF is available as an option to gain xp, it will be used by some, exploited, by others in a controlled way to gain xp and PL, period.

I have been gone for a year, and this is still being discussed?
Sad. Some things never get fixed.
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[Hitokiri]

FF is something you can't fix, whatever you throw at it.
You can nullify the amount of XP to get from teammates, but then you'll see mickey mouse back, and the measures taken to get rid of those will be thrown in the bin.

And call me crazy but eliminating one problem for another is not the way to work to a solution.

The only sure way to get rid of FF is by everyone not doing it.
Unfortunately not everyone has the same set of morals to comply to this.

And while we're at it, it's the same for newb bashing.
Give newbs protection and alot of veterans will start with new names every round, just to get the protection or get around any rules in the way of taking over newbies' planets.


It is actually easily explained.
Fair play. If all had a decent concept of fair play all of this would not be needed to be discussed.

Guess in every game there must be rules about fair play and referees to guard it nowadays as many don't seem to have the level of intelligence or common decency to know the boundries themselves.
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[Schimi]

[CutDealer]

A solution against FF would be to forbid it, changing the rules.

Then, it would be AccA job (Or FairPlayAdmin ^^) to lock the players doing FF, on denonciation, but working on each case, so that a player victim of a crash doesn't get locked. Could also work for PG.
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[CutDealer]

[ToMasseAcre]

And I add :
- When you loose a fight, your fleet must retreat and you must have some survivors, depending of your defense value.

With such a system you will be able to do more interestant war I think, and a warrior ranking could be realized.

[plasmacannon]

[christophej2]

[zlad]